Response from Tony Bragalia to my Ariel postings
Copyright 2022, Anthony Bragalia [permission needed to reproduce]
The phenomenon is both physical and
paraphysical. The interstellar requires the interdimensional.
But at its root, it is a technology. A technology that appears as magic. A technology crafted over the eons by beings who reside/ed on planets conducive to sentient life.
This technology has the capability of manipulating light, matter, space, time, and most importantly, mind, in ways known and yet to be discovered.
And there are frequencies, emanations, vibrations, pulsations and oscillations we will know one day in the far future that will facilitate this.
At its root, the creatures are corporeal. But they can be anywhere they want to be, and they can appear any way that they want to appear.
They contain themselves in craft. The craft is comprised of material. Of matter.
But it is the process which they apply to matter, the way in which they are able to ‘change up’ and morph matter, that is the key. They can change the vibrational rate of material. They can make it have characteristics that best suit the environment in which the craft is traversing. And they can make it appear as they wish.
But the craft still possess a ‘core’ structure and are comprised of elements likely found throughout the universe. And the Visitors are of Other Flesh looking to us as they wish, but too having a ‘core structure.’
But at its root, it is a technology. A technology that appears as magic. A technology crafted over the eons by beings who reside/ed on planets conducive to sentient life.
This technology has the capability of manipulating light, matter, space, time, and most importantly, mind, in ways known and yet to be discovered.
And there are frequencies, emanations, vibrations, pulsations and oscillations we will know one day in the far future that will facilitate this.
At its root, the creatures are corporeal. But they can be anywhere they want to be, and they can appear any way that they want to appear.
They contain themselves in craft. The craft is comprised of material. Of matter.
But it is the process which they apply to matter, the way in which they are able to ‘change up’ and morph matter, that is the key. They can change the vibrational rate of material. They can make it have characteristics that best suit the environment in which the craft is traversing. And they can make it appear as they wish.
But the craft still possess a ‘core’ structure and are comprised of elements likely found throughout the universe. And the Visitors are of Other Flesh looking to us as they wish, but too having a ‘core structure.’
AB
posted by RRRGroup at
Saturday, June 18, 2022
16 Comments:
In the Rogen podcast that spurred some of my views I shared with Tony, Jim Fox made an interesting small comment while talking about the Nickerson Ariel documentary from which Fox culled the Ariel segment in his work, The Phenomenon:
Did the humanoids that confronted the Ariel school kids think that they, the kids, were an "adult" human species, as they (the kids) were of the same size as the humanoid species?
Otherwise, why would the "visitors" be confronting kids with the dystopian scenario they provided (telepathically?)....
RR
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RRRGroup, at Saturday, June 18, 2022
Humanoids unaware of youthful humanoids?
First we must go back to the "humanoids" -another big jump without definition. What visitors?
How are we to accept a humanoids perception when the very existence of extraterrestrial humanoids is unknown?
BD
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Bryan Daum, at Saturday, June 18, 2022
Fox's premise Bryan is that the humanoids spotted at the school were actual and small, allowing him to continue his argument.
If we accept his premise that the humanoids were real and appeared as the kids said they did, Fox's intuition holds up.
If we deny his premise, then that's another thing.
RR
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RRRGroup, at Saturday, June 18, 2022
I'm assuming this is based on the popular literature we all have access to, then extrapolated to the nth degree. The speculation is interesting; the forceful way in which it's presented as fact, amusing.
Often we confuse science with The Show. This is The Show.
As for Fox, that too is a fascinating take on Ariel. I'm glad the case is coming back around for discussion.
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Ron, at Saturday, June 18, 2022
I get that but isn't that clearly putting the cart before the horse?
BD
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Bryan Daum, at Saturday, June 18, 2022
Tony's response was partly caused by my anti-ET stance -- he's a fervent Roswellian and also by my continuing complaints about the UFO community -- how deficient it is.
RR
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RRRGroup, at Saturday, June 18, 2022
Bryan:
For Fox and Rogan -- even Vallee who was also present -- and Tony (plus our Dominick) the ET presence is actual -- not speculative.
So, any suggestion like that from Fox makes sense in their world of logic.
RR
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RRRGroup, at Saturday, June 18, 2022
There are so many reports I would want/hope to believe but which I just can't get past some unsupported ET premise being laid down in up front.
BD
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Bryan Daum, at Saturday, June 18, 2022
The Ariel landing-trace evidence takes this case to another level, certainly beyond the scope of psychology alone. The preponderance of evidence is leading one way so far, but we'd be foolish to leave it at that. There has to be more to this than what's come out so far.
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Ron, at Saturday, June 18, 2022
Well, you fellows know my position...
The ET solution just doesn't fit for a number of reasons, but it's the most "sensible" take on such incidents, at this point.
Other speculative offerings are too bizarre or quirky to compete.
Any possibility I might muster -- or you might also -- has little definitive support.
All we can say -- as Ron usually provides -- is that whatever ends up being the reality, it is too far from our normal understanding of things to make any human sense.
It's like that which those having a Cosmic Consciousness episode seeing or experiencing something so far removed from our understanding that they give up pursuing their regular lives -- Thomas Aquinas, St. Paul, Malcolm X, et al.
RR
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RRRGroup, at Saturday, June 18, 2022
Hmmm. Okay. After reading that overview, I'd suggest the author publish that in more detail. A Nobel Prize surely awaits!
By
jlmet, at Sunday, June 19, 2022
Tony, we love you guy, but what the heck does "changing the vibrational rate of material" even mean? Didn't know that "material" even had a "vibrational" rate. I'll take a guess that it means that this computer screen that I'm looking at right now in front of me--this material--can somehow be changed (vibrationally) into, something completely different like, say, a table or a bike in my garage. Now if these creatures have THIS "technology" we might as well raise a collective white flag and surrender.....
Tony, your observations are always appreciated. But I'm curious. How do you know these things?
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Dominick, at Sunday, June 19, 2022
Vibrations and resonance are the key mechanism behind human consciousness They are the basic mechanism for all physical interactions to occur. All things in our universe are constantly in motion, vibrating. All matter is energy in vibration. Even objects that appear to be stationary are in fact vibrating, oscillating, resonating, at various frequencies. Resonance is a type of motion, characterized by oscillation between two states. And ultimately all matter is just vibrations of various underlying fields. When one can control this vibration, physicality becomes whatever one wishes. And “para-phenomena” and “extraterrestrial phenomena” become one.
AB
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RRRGroup, at Sunday, June 19, 2022
Thanks, Anthony, but I must repeat myself: You KNOW this how?
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Dominick, at Sunday, June 19, 2022
We are not yet prepared to enter the world where the physical and the paraphysical intermingle. Until we change our very minds, we cannot go to a such a malleable place where space, time and the very structure of matter are manipulated. It is not a physical limitation. It is a limitation of consciousness. ET works beyond our framework of reference.
They Visitors are self-transforming denizens of another planet and of another dimension. Nothing can prepare us for its hyper-frequencies and its interstellar, extraterrestrial, morphing, science fiction quality. It is a complex space filled with malleable materials and machines undergoing geometric transformations and where thoughts condense as visible objects.
The UFO somehow evokes a strangely mechanistic, but at the same time spiritual, future. Their world is difficult for us to begin to comprehend – or even to describe – due to the limitations of language itself.
Modern theoretical and experimental physics have dramatically changed the understanding of the physical universe and the relationship between consciousness and matter.The research done to establish the physical reality of UFOs is greatly important, but that it is not sufficient for understanding these phenomena.
AB
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RRRGroup, at Monday, June 20, 2022
My wife, who teaches Yoga, holds some of these same beliefs (about vibrations and transformations, etc.) BUT when I ask her to tell me how she knows the truth of these speculations, she declines. So let's admit the obvious here: These are pure speculations that cannot be established as fact...or falsified. Since I respect much of Anthony's UFO research, I will grant that he may have a better perspective on these matters than the rest of us. But, alas, pure speculations they remain until we get more, way more information.
By
Dominick, at Monday, June 20, 2022
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