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Friday, June 15, 2018

Alpha: The Myths of Creation – A challenge to the ETH

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Alpha: The Myths of Creation by Charles H. Long (Associate Professor of the History of Religions, University of Chicago) was published by Collier Books, NY, in 1963, five years before Erich von Däniken’s Chariots of the Gods.

Few know of this book, but it is replete with stories of creation from various cultures since the earliest of times.

What’s interesting (to me) is how the creation myths accumulated by Professor Long fifty-five years ago can, by a suspension of intellectual (academic, scholarly) acumen, be interpreted to indicate that entities from other places in the galaxy (or Universe) were the instigation, and even the gods, of religious belief or mythical reality.

It’s easy to see space visitors in many of the mythical tales related in Dr. Long’s book.

For instance, in the Navaho story of the emergence – mankind derives from Mother Earth – the people “heard in the east the distant sound of a great voice.” The people continued to hear the voice, getting nearer and nearer. “A moment later four mysterious beings appeared to them….

“These beings, without speaking, made many signs to the people, as if instructing them, but the latter did not understand them. When the gods [sic] had gone, the people long discussed the mysterious visit, and tried to make out what the gods meant by the signs they had made.” [Page 53]

Myth from the Minyong (From Wikipedia: The Minyong are a sub-group of the Adi people, a tribal people living in Arunachal Pradesh, India)…..

The earth, Sedi married Melo, the sky – “the Earth is a woman, the Sky is a man. These two married, and when they came together … men and animals held a Kebang (village council) to consider how they could save themselves from being crushed between them. Sedi-Diyor … caught hold of the Sky and beat him so that he fled far up into the heavens leaving the Earth behind.” [Page 110]

The Djanggawul myth (Australia):

“In the beginning there were land and sky, animals and birds, foliage and trees. There was sea, too, in the waters of which were fish and other creatures; and upon the land were beings of totemic origin. All things were there, as they had always been; but man, as we know him to-day [sic], was not among them.

“Far out to sea, out of sight of the … mainland, was an island … the land of the Eternal Beings.” [Page 238]

The book’s chapter Chaos and the Cosmic Egg [Pages 113-149] opens with an account of the four pairs of deities, known as the “eight” “who were before the beginning, and were the elements that represented Chaos, which is described in terms of confusion, darkness, and water …” that in the Dogon mythology brought forth these genii  (Nommo) which were the products of God, of divine essence . [Page 116]

Ogotemmêli, theDogon philosopher, said, “If it were not for Nommo … the earth could not even have been created.”

In the Creation Myth as Found in the Laws of Manu “He (that is the Self-existent) desiring to produce beings of many kinds from his own body … with a thought created the waters and placed his seed in them. That (seed) became a golden egg …in the (egg) he himself was born as Brahman, the progenitor of the whole world.” [Page 129]

In A  Version of Creation in Chinese myth and Legend [Pages 131-132] “Yang and Yin became mixed, the five elements separated themselves from it and a man was formed. As he looked about he perceived …all the stars were circling a great star … Out of this illuminating pattern a brilliant ray fell to earth and standing in front of this amazed man appeared someone like him yet different, he was completely golden in color. The Gold Colored One bowed to the man and honored him. He taught him how to make a garment from grass in ordr to cover his naked body …He explained to him the journey of the stars, the year long path of sun and moon.

In The Mande Creation Myth [Page 139] appears “the ‘Egg of God’ which is also called ‘egg of the world.’ … In [that] egg, there were … two pairs of twins, each consisting of one male and one female, archetypes of the future men.”

A Japanese Creation Narrative [Page 147]:

“The seventh generation consisted of two deities, Izanagi and Izanami [who] stood on the floating bridge of Heaven … saying ‘Is there not a country beneath?’ Thereupon they thrust down the “Jewel-Spear of Heaven’ (Ame no tama-boko) [which] found the ocean … and formed an island which received the name of Onogoro-jima or the ‘Self-Coagulating Island’ [to which] the two deities descended and dwelt there.”

By this smallish representation of a few of the many myths in Dr. Long’s book, one can see how a perverse interpretation of myth can produce the manic perorations of Ancient Astronaut theorists.

Tales of intruders from elsewhere, mostly the heavens or sky, invite imaginative hypotheses that extraterrestrial beings have to be the explanation for those mythical stories.

But we know, some of us anyway, that alien beings [ETs] are not coming here and haven’t come here, to this lonely spot in the vast universe or galaxy.

So, from what do the ubiquitous tales of deities or entities visiting mankind, even creating it, come?

Obviously, creation tales can’t be so uniform (or similar) if human imagination created them, from an unconscious fictive mental process. Or can they?

Human diversity and cultural uniqueness impugns the kind of sameness that envelopes the tales in Dr. Long’s book, but there it is.

Even Jung’s theory of the archetypes can’t account for such fictional uniformity, archetypes arriving in the collective unconscious long after such tales as those presented occurred.

Since extraterrestrials cannot, for some of us, account for such stories, and gods are shunned by most of you because they are as ridiculous as the ET hypothesis, what are we left with?

Julian Jaynes, as noted here a few times, offers a view that is interesting and academic, even scholarly creative, but few know of it or can fathom it if they do.

And yet, Jaynes remains open to intellectual antithesis.

Therefore, where are we? From whence do the visitors come, Jayne’s mental forces, von Däniken’s spacemen, actual deities who no longer exist, or, despite the odds against it, a fictional “reality” that is contrived from the loneliness that Earth’s place in the cosmos forces us to confront by creating forces or beings outside ourselves whom we hope will come back to relieve us of our dire solitary existence?

RR

14 Comments:

  • I personally like Jaynes theory. Early man being describe in the context of functional schizophrenics as a group survival mechanism.

    Field work by anthropologist from the University of Oklahoma (1930) provided interesting religious/cosmogony stories from the Comanche tribe. Of course most Native American cosmogony was strictly tribal centric. The "Ghost Dance" was a means to impart a unified religion for most western tribes.

    The same could also be for most cultural versions of their own cosmogony, ie Western European centric view points.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Saturday, June 16, 2018  

  • All I can say is, don't get caught-up between the myth of Creation, or the myth of the Big-Bang. It will give you a headache.

    We still need the answer; [Where did mankind come from?] I suspect our history is "far older" than history tells us, and the AA claim that story.

    Now, if the AA is wrong, and God doesn't exist, ETs don't exist, the Big-Bang never took place, and evolution not excepted, then what are we doing here? let-alone where we came from......I came from down South:) with a smile........

    By Blogger Daniel, at Saturday, June 16, 2018  

  • Daniel...

    You are a believer in God, and I'm with you on that.

    Your views here offset the skepticism that permeates the internet and its UFO sites, so I appreciate that.

    And I love people from the South; they are, most times, sweet and wonderful.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Saturday, June 16, 2018  

  • God bless curiosity, without the headache:)......

    By Blogger Daniel, at Saturday, June 16, 2018  

  • -> You are a believer in God, and I'm with you on that.<-

    That's nice Rich, but let me ask you this:...

    IF Adam & Eve, were the "first two humans" on earth, as the Bible goes, and they had two sons; "Cain & Abel" NOW, there are four humans on earth...Where did "Cain & Abel's" two WIVEs come from??.....?

    By Blogger Daniel, at Wednesday, June 20, 2018  

  • A good question, but when it comes to God, the god beneath God, anything is possible, as that god (Yahweh) was tricky.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Wednesday, June 20, 2018  

  • Hahaha! And he made US, in HIS image?? That's the tricky part, Rich;)...

    This is why we sit on the fence, as I've said before, and that's a balancing trick on its own, not knowing what the real answer is, or what's around the corner in new knowledge, but you know,... What will be, will be! and what might have been, is denied. Rubbished actually! Oh! not by you Rich:) Keep smiling, the fun is not over yet, we hope........

    By Blogger Daniel, at Wednesday, June 20, 2018  

  • You may be certain, but you do not know...

    By Blogger Dan, at Wednesday, June 20, 2018  

  • I'd love you

    By Blogger Dan, at Thursday, June 21, 2018  

  • Rich,

    I always feel a little twinge in my heart when you describe Earth as a lonely, uninteresting, backwater planet. Perhaps you are selling our plucky little planet a bit short?

    As a populated “pre-contact” planet, we must be quite interesting to any “post-contact” civilization, simply from an astro-anthropological perspective. Since we all share the same universe, governed by the same physical principles, then we are likely to be encountering many challenges similar to those previously faced by any other “post-contact” civilization.

    We are also that rarest of the rarest—a pre-contact world with spaceships, satellites, great armies, and even nuclear weapons. At the same time, there are tribespeople still living a stone-age lifestyle in some of the far-flung reaches of our globe. We are capable of great art, and yet we are also capable of the most horrifying and debasing atrocities. How often does one get to see something like that, speaking from an inter-galactic perspective? It seems like the perfect opportunity for our neighbors to grab a big bag of popcorn, sit back, and watch the fireworks. Oh, and maybe conduct a little research, as well…

    Finally, in spite of our near-constant squabbling, fighting, killing, starving, etc, we can be a rather lovable lot. Although we struggle with our primal urges, we often do find a way to overcome our differences and come together. Although it is easy to feel alone in a great swamp of meaninglessness, we somehow manage to sneak in some respect, forgiveness and love—tools necessary for civilization building-- tools necessary for something much greater, even.

    When seen in this light, Earth might be seen as a fairly interesting place, don’t you think? Maybe, at the very least, Earth is an interesting “bucket-list” vacation spot for cosmic travelers.

    Thanks,
    Kevin G

    By Blogger Unknown, at Thursday, June 21, 2018  

  • Kevin:

    I've posted how wonderful Earth is and has been...all its glories, all of them.

    What I'm trying to get across is that Earth is, in the context of the cosmos, too insignificant to be a visiting spot for multitudes of aliens showing up in UFOs galore, if UFO reportage is accurate or nearly so.

    Even if an alien culture stumbled upon Earth, I can't imagine that culture visiting in droves and alerting other cultures so that they too might show up, many, many times to see the diversity and wonders.

    It's madness to think that an advanced culture would bypass all the other wonders of the cosmos to zero in on Earth, over and over again, if UFO data represents the alleged visitations.

    You, and many others (me included) love this creation, but that doesn't mean that it has caught the attention of extraterrestrials in numbers that belie a sane reality.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, June 21, 2018  

  • RR,

    I know what you’re saying… the cosmos is chock-full of fascinating sites that are ripe for exploration, without question. In the grand scheme, we here on Earth appear to be a tiny speck of relative insignificance.

    My angle here is that the vast number of reports might be an indication that the great variety of life on our planet is a greater attractant than one might expect. Perhaps visitors of many persuasions are driven to observe the conflict-riddled lives of the semi-intelligent beings that inhabit this still-beautiful planet. Perhaps there is a deeper agenda, as well, that we can’t begin to divine just yet. I guess what I'm saying is that we might be surprised to learn the full level of interest.

    Hopefully we’ll catch a larger glimpse of the truth, someday!

    Thanks as always,
    Kevin G

    By Blogger Unknown, at Thursday, June 21, 2018  

  • Kevin:

    I admire your Earth-centric feelings but it's not clear thinking, as I see it, to look at the vast cosmos and think that Earth has become a prime visitation for advanced species from far-flung areas of the galaxy or the even vaster arena(s) of the universe.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Friday, June 22, 2018  

  • I would like to suggest, that they are just from our Milky-way, and THAT in its self, is vast. On top of this, why not established, here on earth, in underground bases, or even our oceans???... Consider this!! If they can cloak their craft not to be seen, and have a small boy disappear; [Cloaked!] Why not Cloak all of the Base? This way, they are not seen, and left alone, thus, we are no wiser for the reports, on seeing them;.."Appear & Disappear"..but from where? when maybe, they are from here on earth, all the time, at least some of them. Who would know? and would you believe it anyway:)......

    By Blogger Daniel, at Friday, June 22, 2018  

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