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Sunday, August 06, 2017

The 1964 Socorro Event coming to a bookstore near you

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As some of you may know, my dear pal Kevin Randle has a new book about the 1964 Socorro/Lonnie Zamora UFO episode coming out in October. (It’s already promoted on Amazon.)

A fresh look at the odd sighting is quite okay with me, as it either represents a bona fide alien landing, a U.S. military experiment (my preference), or a prank (the Tony Bragalia view).

There is no other speculation that works. Lonnie Zamora wasn’t hallucinating nor hoxing nor drunk (as Mr. Bragalia once hinted).

The “sighting” is rich in detail and has been superbly recounted by many, now with a renewed view by Mr. Randle at hand.

In conjunction with this new endeavor by Kevin, I saw in a cursory view of Luis Gonzalez exquisite evaluation of the once hopped-up UMMO incidents that he (Luis) mentioned Jacques Vallee thought the Socorro symbol was a rendition of the Arabic sign for Venus.

This one?
Or this one?
And there are two renditions of the insignia on the Socorro “craft”:
Which one is the real one? Mr. Randle will broach the topic in his upcoming book.

But why would Monsieur Vallee think that either of the proffered symbols looks like the Arabic symbol for Venus?

Odd.

Whatever was on the egg-shaped thing Police Officer Zamora saw could not come from an alien (extraterrestrial) species.

I’ve provided my views, many times on this, after studying the evolution of writing by humans (on this planet).

Any writing that originated with alien civilizations would be unrecognizable as such by us (Earthlings). The 2016 movie Arrival dealt with this but, moreover, writing or depictions that may be akin to human writings, from an extraterrestrial species, would in no way have a similarity to anything created on this planet.

The evolutionary contingencies that created human writing would not be the same for an alien (extraterrestrial) civilization.

Any designation that smacked of or resembled a human symbolic endeavor would have to a spoof or joke by those who created the egg-shaped “craft” – Howard Hughes techies as I see it. (Or, perhaps, pranksters from the New Mexico University that Anthony Bragalia sees as the hooligans.)

But let’s see what Kevin Randle’s take on this is…

RR

posted by RRRGroup at Sunday, August 06, 2017

5 Comments:

  • It will be interesting reading Randle's take. The insignia is the enigma and agree with your past assessments that this portion of the investigation, past/present, has been bungled.

    It has always appeared to me to be similar the Air Force's insignia for it's Systems Command.

    By Blogger Tim Hebert, at Monday, August 07, 2017  

  • Tim:

    My buddy, Spanish UFO researcher Jose Caravaca sent me some U.S. Military insignia and a few looked very similar to the Socorro symbol -- both of them.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, August 07, 2017  

  • Rich,

    My one hope for Kevin's new book is that he gets somebody to edit the manuscript before he publishes it. The last several books I've read have spelling and "bone-head" English structural issues which make them painful to read.

    In regard to your comments regarding why Alien language must be different, this is easily explained since function tends to follow form. So the likelihood that an "alien" would be a bipedal humanoid is vanishing small and that their language or writing would be "readible" by humans without some kind of "key" is nil.

    Of course that conclusion comes with one small quibble:

    John D. MacDonald, known mainly for his 'detective fiction', wrote two SF books [Wine of the Dreamers and Ballroom of the Skies. I recommend them if you haven't read them] in an attempt to explain why we live in the totally crazy world we live in.

    Both books deliver separate possible solutions. The second book plays into the ET scenario but it might also apply to an inter-dimensional civilization: Earth provides "new blood" leaders for a civilization that has gone to seed.

    I'm not saying this is the actual case [by now such a conspiracy would have leaked... OTOH if the world is a simulation there is no way to get to "the man behind the curtain" -- but that's a different discussion...]

    Human mythology, human symbolism, and maybe the human need to see psychosis-as-normality probably has more to say about the "observed phenomena" than any of the witnesses or other facts actually presented.

    OTOH it may also be true that in a very small number of cases something actually did happen but we will never be able to describe the situation in a factual manner. One could say that Science is an illusion agreed upon until a better illusion is agreed upon. If you're not agreeing with *all* the major trends / beliefs of Science then it is obvious you do not believe in Science.

    By Blogger Joel Crook, at Tuesday, August 08, 2017  

  • Joel Cook -

    Editing of the books is out of my hands. The publisher is responsible for it and I've seen them introduction errors into a manuscript where there had been none before. I blame spell check.

    And, MacDonald actually wrote three science fiction novels. You forgot The Girl, the Gold Watch and Everything... not to mention an anthology or two of science fiction short stories, not all of which had been written by him.

    By Blogger KRandle, at Tuesday, August 08, 2017  

  • Kevin,

    I was aware that there was three novels but only two directly [the ones mentioned] deal with "ET" scenarios... and only "Ballroom of the Skies" gives a plausible and entertaining *fictional* explanation of why this planet seems to swing from crisis to crisis.

    I've been an SF reader since the late 1960s... Rich complains that UFO research and sightings have all gone down hill since then the same could be said for books, writing, and SF novels. It is very rare to find a "good novel" to read which explains my fascination with the myths and legends we have created. Where are the new generation Heinlein or Zelazny. Even MacDonald [who was a detective story writer] could tell a engaging yarn.

    My suspicion is that when books and "UFOs" became "media products" to sell the value / quality of those things became worse than the pulp novels of the 20s and 30s.

    Editing can make or break a book. My understanding was that usually it is a process that the publisher, the editor, and author interact... but maybe that's changed. In any case, Good luck, I hope it sells well!

    regards

    By Blogger Joel Crook, at Wednesday, August 09, 2017  

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