UFO Conjectures

Sunday, September 17, 2017

A 1974 Spanish sighting similar to the 1964 Socorro event (and a clarification of Jose Caravaca's Distortion Theory)

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My friend and colleague Spanish UFO researcher Jose Antonio Caravaca sent me this 1974 Spanish UFO incident, that has elements similar to the well-known 1964 Lonnie Zamora/Socorro case:

“On May 24, 1974, about 11:00 am, Demetrio Carrascosa, 53, in San Clemente (Cuenca), was traveling on his motorcycle near the river Rus when he spotted a spherical dark-green object. It was about 4 meters long and about 3 meters high. The artifact was supported on 4 legs of about 15 centimeters wide and 2 meters in length. The witness said that in its central part had several "windows", 6 or 7, like metal painted white, with a black border. In its lower part, the object had a kind of "nozzle". At that moment, for the impression, Demetrio fell off his motorcycle. When he approached the artifact to observe it better, about 70 meters, suddenly he felt a tremendous clatter and the apparatus rose quickly as stones and earth jumped. The landing gear retreated as it appreciated 4 "jets" of smoke. The windows swirled (maybe all the object). Demetrio said he felt a strong smell of sulfur. The witness reported that it sounded like a jet. It disappeared into the distance. Immediately Demetrio looked [for someone to whom he could recount his observation and he found a] shepherd [who with Demetrio] verified, half an hour later, [that the object left] 4 holes [in the ground when] the object [departed in a cloud of] smoke. Both verified that they had a depth of more than 1 meter. An enologist working in a village factory told researchers that in the area where the object had landed, there was a piece of land measuring 1 meter in diameter where the vegetation was totally dry. He also noticed that 2 of the 4 tracks, were 20 and 25 centimeters respectively in diameter and were separated by about 50 centimeters. The other 2 tracks, were 10 centimeters in diameter and were distanced by 1.5 meters, but the curious thing is that they had a depth of more than 1 meter. Each of the larger holes had, in turn, 3 holes of 3 centimeters deep enough. All the holes had the walls burned. The laboratory analyzes did not detect radiation, and indicated that the soil samples obtained in the traces had been subjected to "a high temperature heat source from 2000 to 3000 C.” [I have emboldened those aspects of the sighting that are somewhat similar to the Socorro event, and bracketed emended details by me to clarify the account.]

I asked Jose, who is researching the episode further, if his Distortion Theory, which has been presented here many times, explains this event.

(Jose’s Distortion Theory is premised by what he calls an “external agent” – a psychical element that interacts with UFO witnesses and is bit more delineated, by Jose, than Jacques Vallee’s “other.”)

Here is Jose’s supplement to this sighting, wherein he offers his views of how his “external agent” operates:

“Rich, The case is unique. It was certainly real. The researchers involved, did not find the causes that [explained] the sighting. Vicente Manglano and Ballester Olmos said that this incident: "… fits extraordinarily to the typology of Vallee or to the close encounters of Second type of Hynek"...

I honestly do not know what to think ... these things are very rare ...
It was virtually impossible for the witness to know Lonnie's story. Surely we are faced with some kind of hallucination orchestrated from our unconscious but directed in part by an unknown agent, which acts as a detonator. I believe that the energies involved in these "hallucinations" (projections), derive from a complex psychic process,  [and] are the cause of these images to have matter. But since this does not happen in all cases, even if they have the same ingredients at stake, this indicates that in some way the potential of the witnesses is the primary factor that will determine two fundamental aspects: 1. The richness of details and complexity of the experience. 2. That the recreated scene (projection) contains matter.

You know that the main point in common with experiences of fairy visions, Marian apparitions, ghosts and even UFOs is that the witnesses appear to be in an altered state of consciousness. That is an important key to my study.

You think how many UFO cases there are similar to each other, but different in nuances of each other. This is a sign that the basic elements; "flying saucer/landing/humanoids" are objects of variation on the part of the witnesses using their own information. What happens … is that conjunctions of elements can almost coincide, but never 100%, because there are many UFO sightings. In the same way that a teacher of a school, who asked his students to make a story, based on several common elements, would make the majority of stories … different but sometimes coinciding in some aspects.

The external agent can use some common points, but the personal creativity of each witness can develop the experience widely. In this UFO incident in Spain, the color, the windows, do not seem to coincide with the sighting of Zamora, although the reminiscences are clear.

It is as if we had tried to understand or decipher the set of thousand dreams, a thousand different people, thinking that all obeyed the same cause. Or what is the same, assuming that all these dreams came from a common source that communicated with the thousand sleepers to send the same message. In our wild race to get common patterns or a global explanation for this huge amount of dreams, we would extract so many different and disparate elements that it would make our task an impossible task. We would irremediably transform purely subjective experiences (with some nexuses of union between them) into complex belief systems. In addition, for greater complexity, as with the study of UFOs, this analysis would lead us to formulate a multitude of questions and theories that simply do not have answers, because we do not face a great and unique question.

And how would distortion theory explain the electromagnetic alterations and failures noted on vehicles, television sets and radios, clocks, etc.? Simple. As these effects are not recorded in the bulk of the UFO casuistry, even if we have the same elements at play, distance with the object from the witness, etc., this clearly indicates that these "sequelae" must have a different origin to the mere presentation or presence "sine qua non" of the phenomenon before the witness, since otherwise, they would always be recorded, in each of the manifestations of the UFOs. Probably these derivations, adjudicated to date for the purposes of the "propelling source" of UFOs or the effects derived by the irruption of these intelligences from "other dimensions", can have two origins: 1. They can be a consequence of the " energy "emanated by the" creation "(projection) of the External Agent. 2. The External Agent is able to interact "physically" with our environment, which could cause, in addition to the appearance of traces or remains, different tangible effects on the witness and / or the surroundings.

Although we must also bear in mind that since these effects are not recorded in all cases, it is very possible that the participation of witnesses also determines the presence of this factor. Since the potential of some observers would not only affect the visual and intellectual richness of the scenography put into operation by the AE, but also may lead to a greater number of physical phenomena (blackouts, interference in radios and televisions, etc.). Nor can it be ruled out that these actions are fruit of the incorporation of unconscious elements of the witnesses who "imagine" that this is produced by the appearance of the UFOs. It would also have to determine in what degree of reality these effects occur, in certain occasions, and if they would not be part or consequences of the projection itself.

And what happens to the injuries produced on the witnesses? Could all these effects be caused by communication with an unknown External Agent? We must not forget, on this point, that medical science has discovered that psychosomatic diseases (induced by our mind) are more numerous than was believed decades ago: "Difficulty sleeping, morning stiffness, anxiety, headaches , dizziness, blindness, double vision, aphonia, dizziness, fainting, nausea, tingling or numbness of the hands and feet, muscular paralysis, tachycardia, memory loss or difficulty concentrating, skin diseases (psoriasis, vitiligo, etc.), tiredness, etc."

Therefore the interaction with this unknown operator that manipulates our mind could be the origin for infinity of sequels for our organism. If the witness believes (unconsciously, imbued with his beliefs or fears) that this object can damage, burn or blind him for example, it is likely that the observer will be affected by these actions. But only if the energy involved in the projection, the exclusive fruit of the conjunction of the EA and the witness itself, is strong enough for it. And it is that according to the analysis of the UFO casuistry, we can deduce that in not all the events, the same springs are put into operation. Although the procedure is the same, the potential of each person, may derive not only in unique and exclusive experiences, but are more energetic than others. And all probably because of the intensity of each observer's beliefs. In addition, this link with the AE can activate latent diseases or accelerate certain pathologies.

What is clear, for Distortion Theory, is that no witness will see or access any information that is not capable of imagining or that is latent in the popular imagination, since the External Agent is fundamentally neutral in its contributions. And it is for this simple reason that apparitions will always be synchronous with the epoch of manifestation and there is no need to look beyond or theorize about "intelligent" camouflages or "systems of control." By this approach we could find a person in the last century, who can give many details of a supernatural experience, by its intrinsic ability to interact with the AE, due to its rich informational / imaginative personal baggage, and on the contrary, we can, at present, find a witness who describes a UFO experience very sparse in detail. Everything depends on the observer. We repeat. What can not be found in the psyche of the witnesses will never be visualized in an encounter."

I think Jose has a book coming forth that clarifies his Distortion Theory and the “external agent” that is integral to it.

As you can see, Jose’s Distortion Theory is rather complex but I see within it, a possible explanation for many UFO sightings, especially those that include “entities.”

While the 1974 sighting above is devoid of beings, its superficial similarities to the Socorro incident invites, for those wishing to be serious about what causes UFO sightings, a possible explanation for UFO sightings – not all, but many.

RR

6 Comments:

  • RR,

    After several readings the EA is still unclear to me. Seems that if External we are talking a about your non-favorite the trickster or an entity that can deceive us, the Collective Unconscious, or the like and still an "other." Can't be God because "God would not deceive us."

    If it is a mind/brain event then is Internal.

    Am I missing something here?

    BD

    By Blogger Bryan Daum, at Thursday, September 21, 2017  

  • Bryan Daum

    To define it better, it is a mind /brain event that provoked by an external agent.The consequence of this process is the projection of a three-dimensional image that can be observed by more people and that at times can contain matter and be tangible.The external agent is neutral in intentionality. It confines itself to "working" with the internal resources of the witness.Therefore, the content of UFO experiences will be determined by the individual participation of each witness, and never by the derived and premeditated action of the phenomenon.
    Thanks...

    By Blogger jacarav@ca, at Friday, September 22, 2017  

  • Jose,

    Thank you for the follow up. It is certainly and interesting theory and I look forward to your book coming out so as to read more of it.

    I would like to know what you think spawns these events especially when the observer is astounded by an unexpected experience while focused on other a task at hand.

    It also makes me wonder if or how this explanation might explain physical objects seen that defy a commonality with other reported sightings.

    Thanks again.

    BD

    By Blogger Bryan Daum, at Friday, September 22, 2017  


  • Bryan Daum...
    It is complicated to determine the nature of the external agent. What I have clear, is that it is not a Control System or anything complex.
    The External Agent in occasions, by interactivity with the witnesses, is able to grant matter to the projections (so that they appear real). And evidently, if the EA uses the same documentary base to construct its fictional experiences of extraterrestrial visitation, it is obvious that after thousands of close encounters, we find parallels.But you have to keep in mind, that the bulk of the UFO casuistica, has no continuity whatsoever. These are isolated episodes. We can not trace a uniform story from case to case.



    thanks for your comments

    By Blogger jacarav@ca, at Saturday, September 23, 2017  

  • Hello,

    Looks like an Army helicopter (Ballester-Olmos 1976 catalogue "insists" to the Dark-Green Kaki color of the object, mentionned by the witness). Good case ;)

    BTW, and concerning helicopter, I'm presenting/investigating a new hypothesis concerning Zamora 1964 sighting involving an helicopter too, cause the dynamite deposit and his use...

    Will probably write an article at my blog, for the moment in our FB group for help and to investigate this hypothesis.


    Gilles.

    By Blogger Gilles Fernandez, at Thursday, September 28, 2017  

  • Gilles:

    I've done a few postings here about the possibility of Zamora's craft being a Hughes helicopter.

    You can find those posts by using the Blog's search spot on the upper left of the blog.

    I'm looking forward to your evaluation, as the helicopter scenario seems more than acceptable in many ways.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Thursday, September 28, 2017  

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