Fascinating accounts of UFOs/USOs and "abductions"
The accounts noted by a Puerto Rico journalist with credible witnesses and interesting photos go to an older set of sightings and alleged abductions that have a ring of credibility about them.
But are they credible...Really? (See comments below)
(You can disregard the last woman witness story; it smacks of psychopathology.)
RR
posted by RRRGroup at
Tuesday, April 18, 2023
7 Comments:
Interesting. One of the photos of a UFO coming out of the water bears a modest resemblance to the Heflin UFO. Roughly the same shape; more importantly, there seems to be some smoke or "black particulate matter" along the outer edges. Picture was not clear enough or up long enough to really tell. Love to see an analysis of the negative, however. Thanks for posting.
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Dominick, at Wednesday, April 19, 2023
I liked the journalist.. neat and articulate.
The photos and taker were credible even though abductions entered the tale.
This is an older case that calls for more research or investigation.
It hasn't been smothered by obsessive scrutiny or chit-chat.
I try to sneak in as many accounts with good photos for you, Dom.
RR
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RRRGroup, at Wednesday, April 19, 2023
One of the issues that I puzzle about is: After all these many decades, we still don't have two photos, with time and date stamps, taken at different locations showing EXACTLY the same object. Still can't wrap my head around that one. Of course, even if we did, that would still not answer your ultimate questions: What is it, and what does it want? But still...how can they be "flying machines" (AI or whatever) and yet we still have no photo replication? Ron, do you have an answer for that one?
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Dominick, at Wednesday, April 19, 2023
The photos of the UFO with the airplane have been covered before and are definite and unambiguous hoaxes.
A comment online about the hoaxes of Amaury Rivera:
>These are fakes, as exposed by researcher J. L. Pacheco, Wilson Sosa, and the fact that the hoaxer was caught lying about the location, and faking other shots:
https://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/1120/3022/1600/28400/ar2.jpg
https://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/1120/3022/1600/532776/amaury02.jpg
>Pacheco is a reporter for El Ojo Critico (the Critical Eye), who discovered the professional photographer (Mr. Mr. Germán Gutiérrez) who developed the UFO reel given to him by the hoaxer. The photographer (Gutiérrez) was always aware that he was developing faked photos.
>Sosa is a Magna Cum Laude graduate in Computer Science, a graduate in Distribution and Management, with 8 courses in Theology and one in Atomic Radiation. He's an active ufologist, with 35 years of experience when this photo was taken, and was director of the GIPV, arguably the oldest ufological group in Latin America, and a student of the pioneer Mr. Ing. Noel Rigau.
Martin
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Martin Black, at Wednesday, April 19, 2023
Thank you, Martin... I think.
Your links show photos but not the material offering the debunking of them or the picture taker. Can you provide that?
Remember Philip Klass? He often disabused UFO sightings and photos, many of which remain unexplained by other "experts."
While I am often quick to ignore or make fun of some UFO incidents or people, one has to believe that all promoters of photos or assumed abductions are not lying -- maybe fooled or in a fog state, but serious or sincere about what they proclaim.
RR
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RRRGroup, at Wednesday, April 19, 2023
RR:
No problem.
Here's a statement by Sosa who originally supported the case: https://www-ovnispain-com.translate.goog/foro-ufologia/libros/el-caso-amaury-rivera/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Preston Dennett writes the following in his book _UFOs and Aliens_:
>One of the most famous examples of this kind occurred on May 8,
1988, when Puerto Rican hotdog vendor Amaury Rivera claimed to
have been abducted by E.T.s. In support of his story, he produced several
clear photographs of a UFO being chased by a Navy F-14 Tomcat
jet fighter. The case electrified the UFO community, and the story
and photos were widely published.
>A few months later, however, the truth was revealed. Wilson Sosa,
the lead investigator who had originally supported the case, now
declared that it was a hoax. It turned out that inconsistencies in the
photographs (including shadows and other technical details) revealed
that Amaury Rivera, who had sold his photos for thousands of dollars
to various media outlets, had actually faked the entire incident using
models. Professional photographer Manuel Fernandez also analyzed
the photos and agreed that they were hoaxed. Writes Fernandez, “The
photos are false and two small models were utilized to make them.”
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Martin Black, at Wednesday, April 19, 2023
Thank you Martin...
I'll also provide your material as a posting of its own.
RR
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RRRGroup, at Wednesday, April 19, 2023
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