UFO Conjectures

Monday, January 22, 2024

Billy Cox on the former AARO Director

https://lifeinjonestown.substack.com/p/yeah-blame-the-conspiracy-nuts

posted by RRRGroup at Monday, January 22, 2024

6 Comments:

  • Here's a chance for ufology to get past its jellyfish fascination and flex whatever muscles it has left. UFO advocates need a strong response to Kirkpatrick's rant, enough to counter MSM's usual head-in-sand stance, and drive home the deflections and lack of transparency from the government.

    This story has been around for a while; where are the voices, other than Billy's?

    By Blogger Ron, at Monday, January 22, 2024  

  • You're missing the societal message, Ron...

    UFOs and now UAP are the fashion for those who want to be influencers of something. UAP are the new vehicle for many -- Billy has been at it like you and me and Dominick or Tim or Bragalia -- too long with little moxie.

    We are the old guard, non-influencers because we are that old guard.

    And when people hear that Billy has cancer, that's his killer, not the disease.

    The new show-boaters -- Rogan for one and many who I barely have a name for even as I follow their drecky outpourings -- have the spotlight and the oomph to get attention.

    Even dopes like Knapp, Corbell and your buddy West (whom I like, by the way) know how to grab the spotlight.

    Billy, Micah Hanks, and the FB, Instagram, X, Reddit people are out of the circle.

    It's the noisy, geeky newbies -- Lehto among them, even Avi Loeb -- who have the mic.

    The voices you're hoping to hear are muffled by the new noisemakers.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, January 22, 2024  

  • In my view no one has a real chance of breaking this transparency stalemate (newbies or old timers) except whislte-blowers like Grusch. Grush has taken the first step but I urge him to take the second: Reveal to the media and the public what you have already told the Inspector General for Intelligence, i.e., the names of insiders familiar with the reverse-engineering program and the locations where debris or biologics are held. This would involve breaking security oaths but he should do it.

    First, these sworn security oaths were originally meant to conceal legitimate and lawful activity that would be consistent with Constitutional provisions. But clearly that's NOT what's going on now or for the last 7 decades. What we have here are really illegal concealments...especially from the appropriate Congressional oversight committees. An oath sworn to protect a tax fraud or a murder (or a program to be concealed from Congress) may NOT be a legitimate oath. So breaking THAT oath may not be "illegal" at all.

    Second, would the JD really attempt to prosecute and imprison someone like Grusch? Doubtful. The fact remains that a majority of Americans (if polls are accurate) believe that the government is hiding UFO evidence and that it has nothing whatever to do with "national security." There would be broad media and public support for these revelations and little to no support for sending Grusch to Levenworth. Elsberg was prosecuted (and convicted I believe although I can't remember if he served time) but he became a citizen hero and the truth about Pentagon lying got out. Grusch can do the same.

    By Blogger Dominick, at Monday, January 22, 2024  

  • The problem with Grusch, Dom, is that he's fallen into the hands of the sociopaths now in control of the UAP mess.

    UFOs are a whole different thing that may have to go underground to remain relevant.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Monday, January 22, 2024  

  • "You're missing the societal message."
    I was trying to find something positive to say for once, though I didn't feel it, and see where it got me? You're right.

    Instead of just naming names, Grusch would have to drop the classified files and video on the Speaker of the House's desk, while simultaneously releasing it all to the media. He doesn't seem like the type to do that, and I'm not sure a single individual could manage it anyway. Maybe he's got friends in high places, not the low-life's he's hanging with now. DoJ would be obligated by law to go after him; Ellsberg was prosecuted but the charges were dismissed because of government misconduct.

    ". . . and your buddy West."
    You really know how to hurt a guy, Rich.

    By Blogger Ron, at Monday, January 22, 2024  

  • I like West's demeanor -- he's refined, compared to the other pro and con UAPers.

    It was a compliment -- West would be a good anti-UFO chum....polite, educated and often wrong.

    RR

    By Blogger RRRGroup, at Tuesday, January 23, 2024  

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