UFO Conjectures

Monday, May 11, 2020

A note about Roswell….really?

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A Facebook posting adjacent to the one by Isaac Koi presented here the other day suggested that it would take about 10 years for the United States military to back-engineer or figure out what powered any flying saucer that came into its possession.
Noting the date on the newspaper account of the Air Force “bag- ging” a flying saucer – 1958 – puts a date of 1948 (or 1947?) within the time-frame that would allow a retrieved flying disc (UFO) to be examined technologically (forensically), offering possibilities for duplication of it power configurations and all the attendant flight parameters.

That 10 year date takes the bagged saucer back to about 1947, the year in which the Army Air Force put out a press release that it had captured a "flying a saucer" -- bagged one.
The press release didn’t say the RAAF found a downed flying disc (saucer). It says the RAAF captured one – bagged one:

The crashed disc story, with dead aliens (extraterrestrials), came about as a fullfledged tale pretty much after a 1978 Stanton Friedman conversation with Jesse Marcel Sr. as we all know.

The little grey beings – the supposed ET presences found at an alleged crash site – became the meme that has haunted and destroyed the Roswell incident, not from 1947 but from that 1978 encounter between a flying saucer ET advocate (Stan Friedman) and Jesse Marcel who may have seen flying disc debris or the disc itself but never indicated he saw dead aliens, just something not from this Earth.

I think it might be okay to revive the Roswell story – God, forgive me for suggesting that – with the “bagged flying saucer” hypo- thesis and see if it could really fly.

RR

The language of the gods is math?

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While listening to some classical music the other night, I was struck by how many classical composers died young: Pergolesi, Mozart, Schubert, Chopin, Bizet, Bellini, Boulanger, Gershwin, et al.

But Bach lived to 65 and was fecund – 20 children (Two marriages) -- and successful in life.
Douglas R Hofstadter in his superb book, Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid [Basic Books, 1979] – a favorite of mine and my former buddy Bruce Duensing [RIP] – elucidates the for- mulaic composing of Bach which, as fate determined, proved to be a boon to the gods (or fate) whereas those composers, listed above, met with untimely deaths, not having the genius insight to the gods that Bach apparently had.

Scientists, physicists predominately, insist that math is a truth (and practice) throughout the Universe, and that mathematical symbols, the language of science, would be known by advanced civilizations elsewhere in the cosmos.

But commonsense took over when Carl Sagan and Frank Drake helped in the design of the Voyager golden record that was attached to the spacecraft now wending its way across the vast cosmic void.

One math symbol was included -- the binary symbol for a decimal point -- and images plus some basic arithmetic.
The symbols that evolved from the 1300s to today, created by mad men of science from their delusional creative minds, do not appear on the Golden Record, nor would such symbols be recognized by a species elsewhere in the galaxy or cosmos.

The mathematical symbols employed by science, like Bach’s compositions, might enchant Earth’s gods but not an intelligent species from off Earth.

Math, like evolution, is unique to this planet, and trying to force it upon another civilized peoples elsewhere in the vast Universe is madness of the kind that afflicts science and its masters.

Only Earth’s divinities appreciate the wonders of mankind or deprecate by torture (or worse) the creations of human beings.

RR

Air Forced “bagged” flying saucer

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My pal Isaac Koi posted this to Facebook and I found it intriguing, the headline and report, both.
“Bagging a saucer” makes more sense to me that recovering a “crashed disc” – since a crashed disc would indicate serious short- comings by interplanetary visitors, time travelers, or inter-dimensional intruders.

The Air Force “bagging” a flying saucer excites. How they did that, even if the newspaper meant that “captured” or “got their hands on” a flying saucer, opens the door to the possibility that the Air Force has a saucer in its possession, as the copy hints and William Lear suggests.

And one might find, by looking at a cluster (flap) of saucer (UFO) sightings prior to 1958, the date of the newspaper shown above, as that could, perhaps, show the location where the saucer was “bagged” – its comrades looking for it.
As I’m not an ET (UFO from outer space) advocate, I’m suggesting that a saucer (UFO) from time or anther dimension would seem likely to be the source of a UFO intrusion, as the possibility of “bagging” would be easier than the downing of a spaceship from an advanced species or civilization that traversed the galaxy or universe to show up here, their “craft” immune from the primitive technologies of Earth’s militaries or wanton weather.
An object from time or another dimension might be more susceptible to capture or “bagging” it seems to me.

If a flying saucer was, indeed, “bagged” by the U.S. Air Force (or Navy), it would be subject to scrutiny in an era, pre-1958, where the bagged craft could be back-engineered, but only if it came from a source not so exotic as that from a civilization a few thousand or million years ahead of us in technology.
(The fictional movie Forbidden Planet gives us a clue as to what an advanced species or civilization might be like; e.g., the Krell.)
Anyway, my point is that in a pre-1950 period, perhaps a flying saucer was “bagged” by a United States military adjunct, inad- vertently or purposefully, and the “bagging” was conducive to engineering scrutiny, -- enough to produce a kind of advanced flying machine which has since evolved into the “things’ seen all over the place and inhabit the AATIP videos we are now privy to.

It’s just a science-fictional conjecture on my part.

RR